I found this on the Internet, very interesting
http://www.gao.gov/assets/500/499077.pdf
B-238436.3, Jun 4, 1990, 90-1 CPD 528
B-238436.3, Jun 4, 1990
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Protest concerning the responsiveness of the proposed awardee's bid is dismissed as untimely when filed more than 10 working days after the protester knew the basis of its protest allegation. Which will not be reviewed by the General Accounting Office except in limited circumstances not present here. Harley-Davidson contends that the bid of Hayes is nonresponsive and that award must be made to Harley-Davidson as the only remaining. Bidders were informed that the Corps would award a single. Harley-Davidson protested to our Office that Hayes' bid was nonresponsive. Harley Davidson argues that it was not until May 2. The protester contends that its protest is timely since it was filed on May 16.
PROCUREMENT - Bid Protests - GAO procedures - Protest timeliness - 10 day rule DIGEST: 1. Protest concerning the responsiveness of the proposed awardee's bid is dismissed as untimely when filed more than 10 working days after the protester knew the basis of its protest allegation. PROCUREMENT - Contractor Qualification - Responsibility - Contracting officer findings - Affirmative determination - GAO review 2. Protest allegation that proposed awardee cannot meet the solicitation requirements concerns the agency's affirmative determination of responsibility, which will not be reviewed by the General Accounting Office except in limited circumstances not present here.
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Harley-Davidson, Inc.:
Harley-Davidson, Inc., protests the proposed award of a contract to Hayes Diversified Technologies Corporation under invitation for bids (IFB) No. M67854-89-B-0035, issued by the United States Marine Corps, for motorcycles. Harley-Davidson contends that the bid of Hayes is nonresponsive and that award must be made to Harley-Davidson as the only remaining, responsive bidder. /1/
We dismiss the protest as untimely.
The IFB, issued November 14, 1989, contemplated the award of a contract for base and option quantities of motorcycles with various auxiliary equipment. Bidders were informed that the Corps would award a single, fixed-price contract as a result of the IFB and that bids would be evaluated by adding the total price of all options to the price for the base requirement.
Bid opening occurred on February 7,1990, and the Corps received the following bids:
Ft. Walton Yamaha $1,513,052.40
Hayes $1,637,414.70
NOSA, Inc. $2,077,080.00
Armstrong $2,710,010.00
Harley-Davidson $2,776,295.30
The Corps found only Hayes to be responsive and proposed award to Hayes. On May 16, Harley-Davidson protested to our Office that Hayes' bid was nonresponsive.
The Corps requests that we summarily dismiss Harley-Davidson's protest as untimely because the protester failed to protest within 10 working days of the date it learned the basis of its protest. Harley Davidson argues that it was not until May 2, at the bid protest conference on Armstrong's second protest (B-238436.2), that it learned that the Corps had found Hayes' bid to be responsive. The protester contends that its protest is timely since it was filed on May 16, within 10 working days of the protest conference.
Our Bid Protest Regulations require protests, other than those concerning apparent solicitation improprieties, to be filed within 10 working days of when the basis of protest is known or should have been known. 4 C.F.R. Sec. 21.2(a)(2) (1990). Here, we find that the protester failed to protest within 10 working days of the date on which it knew the basis of its protest.
The Corps states that Harley-Davidson received a copy of the agency's report on Armstrong Motorcycles Limited's second protest (B-238436.2) on April 26. The agency's report states that only Hayes' bid was found to be responsive. To be considered timely, Harley-Davidson was required to protest the responsiveness of Hayes' bid by May 10, within 10 working days of receiving the agency's report. Harley Davidson's protest, filed May 16, is therefore untimely. /2/
Harley-Davidson also argues that it first learned in the May 2 protest conference that the Corps would not be testing first articles to ensure that the awardee's motorcycle would satisfy the IFB cold temperature starting requirements and thus its protest allegation that Hayes cannot meet this requirement was timely filed. A bidder's apparent ability and capacity to perform all the contract requirements concerns a bidder's responsibility and not responsiveness, which concerns whether a bidder has unequivocally offered to perform services in conformance with all material terms and conditions of the IFB. See Sage Assocs. Gen. Contractors, Inc., B-235497, Aug. 15, 1989, 89-2 CPD Para. 141. Here, Hayes unequivocally offered to provide a motorcycle which met all of the IFB requirements, including the cold temperature starting requirements. Harley-Davidson's objection, therefore, concerns the Corps' affirmative determination of Hayes' responsibility.
Our Office, however, will not review protests against affirmative determinations of responsibility unless either possible fraud or bad faith on the part of contracting officials is shown or the solicitation contains definitive responsibility criteria which allegedly have been misapplied. See Aero Technology Co., B-235277, July 7, 1989, 89-2 CPD Para. 22. Harley-Davidson has not made such a showing here. Furthermore, whether Hayes actually performs in compliance with the requirements is a matter of contract administration, which is the responsibility of the contracting agency and is not reviewable under our bid protest function. 4 C.F.R. Sec. 21.3(m)(1); Vacco Indus., B-230036, Apr. 21, 1988, 88-1 CPD Para. 393.
/1/ Armstrong Motorcycles Limited has filed two protests with our Office (B-238436, B-238436.2) contesting the alleged restrictiveness of the IFB requirement that bidders furnish Environmental Protection Agency air emissions certificates of conformity with their bids and the responsiveness of Hayes' bid. The Corps in its report on Armstrong's second protest (B-238436.2) stated that only Hayes' bid was responsive.
/2/ Harley-Davidson informed us on April 30 that it had a copy of the agency's report on Armstrong's second protest (B-238436.2). Even assuming that April 30 is the date on which Harley-Davidson first learned the basis of its protest, Harley-Davidson's May 16 protest was not timely filed.
The protest is dismissed.
What if HDT never got the contract?
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What if HDT never got the contract?
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Re: What if HDT never got the contract?
Thanks for that but i must admit i am non the wiser. I can get that HD did not like the decision. But as the date was quite a long time ago, Did Hayes actually supply any motorcycles,and did they ever get used?
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Re: What if HDT never got the contract?
Can't find that this is diesel related.
Cause it's more than 20 years old the development of the M1030M1 hasn't started yet in the UK at this time.
Cause it's more than 20 years old the development of the M1030M1 hasn't started yet in the UK at this time.
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Re: What if HDT never got the contract?
Dave's (Locomotivebreath) message sorta got lost in the text. Was talking to him on the phone about this thread and his intended thought was more on the lines of.....
"so sad" "just think how far ahead we would be with public available Diesel bikes if someone else beside HDT had got the contract"
He feels their jerking the public around, getting people to wait on something they may have never intended to produce (or were in the long haul to inept to produce), has held back diesel bike production. With someone else getting the contract we may well have be further ahead today.
"so sad" "just think how far ahead we would be with public available Diesel bikes if someone else beside HDT had got the contract"
He feels their jerking the public around, getting people to wait on something they may have never intended to produce (or were in the long haul to inept to produce), has held back diesel bike production. With someone else getting the contract we may well have be further ahead today.