hi guys
here my new projekt.
i work now 2 days on it.
but i am happy that the engine with the gearbox is still inside.
i hope in the end of week i can try it on street.
engine is triple lombardini, with 6 speed harley gear box. the rest you see is an triumph tiger.
consume is 2,5 liter speed 130-140kmph.
heiko from germany
Heiko, keep us posted on your progress. It's about time that someone used a Triumph in their build I guess this is the same type of engine used on your Harley I saw at Hamm? Looks like a good engine to use
Tell us your secret. How do you built these bikes so quickly
Stuart. M1030M1, Honda NC700S, Grom!, Toyota Corolla 1.4 Turbo Diesel. Favouring MPG over MPH.
On the way back from Hamm myself and Dave were dreaming of Adventure Bike conversions and got to thinking along similar lines,inspired by the Lombardini engines yourself and others had used.
I was thinking about the large parrellel twin Yamaha Super Tenere as a donor due to large steel cradle frame. I disregarded the Tiger due to its use of the engine as a stressed member and wasnt sure how a fabicated cradle would cope.
Also with the more advanced Indirect injected engines, I had concerns that economy would fall to the point were I wondered it if would make economic sense to follow this route.
If your figures turn out to be accurate though, roughly speaking in english terms, thats a 80 to 90mph bike returning 110 to 120mpg. Or to put it another way, twice the economy of its Petrol equivalent at usable road speeds. Which makes it very worthwhile indeed.
Cant wait to see this at Hamm. Any chance of some more pictures?
yes its possible to get more fotos.
at moment i work very hard on it.
because its so woundeful to see how the bike grow up,
but there are much thinks what makes me much thinking.
perhaps tomorrow i make new fotos.
ciaosen heiko
As others have said, this looks superb. I'd quite like a trailbike style layout for my project and was interested in the triumph tiger also although like others have said I thought it would not work because of engine as a stressed member. Very encouraging!
Neil
Smart engined 800cc turbo diesel triumph tiger. 100mpg (imp)
Belfast to Kathmandu overland, 2010/2011 - http://www.suckindiesel.com
Bangkok to Sydney ???
Please excuse the tangent but seeing as we're talking Triumph here.
The new 1600cc Triumph has some potential as a Diesel don'tcha think? Sleave her down to half the capacity (800cc) so the bottom end can handle double the commpression and fit a common rail system and bob's your uncle, a modern diesel bike http://bunnypunia.blogspot.com/2008/07/ ... -1600.html
Stuart wrote:Please excuse the tangent but seeing as we're talking Triumph here.
The new 1600cc Triumph has some potential as a Diesel don'tcha think? Sleave her down to half the capacity (800cc) so the bottom end can handle double the commpression and fit a common rail system and bob's your uncle, a modern diesel bike http://bunnypunia.blogspot.com/2008/07/ ... -1600.html
Looks nice. Don't know much about the mechanical strength side of things with relation to compression. Common rail would be possible albeit with a few hurdles to overcome -
1) ECU - You'd need an ECU to run the setup. This is not insurmountable and there are ECU's out there that could probably be adapted but would be expensive. Or develop one would also be possible and less expensive but would be time consuming.
2) Crank position sensor - The ECU needs a feed from crank position sensor (toothed flywheel with one tooth missing for TDC). I guess it would be possible to fabricate something though. Same would go for a camshaft sensor although it is possible to get away without one.
3) High pressure pump drive - The HP pump needs driven somehow. Typically this is off the end of the camshaft although I think is also possible to do via an electric motor. If camshaft drive then you are looking at re-designing the cylinder head although that might be the case anyway with injectors??
Anyway - I may be digressing from the original thread now! In short its probably possible but there'd be a fair bit in the CDI side of things I'd imagine...
Neil
Smart engined 800cc turbo diesel triumph tiger. 100mpg (imp)
Belfast to Kathmandu overland, 2010/2011 - http://www.suckindiesel.com
Bangkok to Sydney ???
Stuart wrote:Please excuse the tangent but seeing as we're talking Triumph here.
The new 1600cc Triumph has some potential as a Diesel don'tcha think? Sleave her down to half the capacity (800cc) so the bottom end can handle double the commpression and fit a common rail system and bob's your uncle, a modern diesel bike http://bunnypunia.blogspot.com/2008/07/ ... -1600.html
I think if you sleeved down that much there would not be room enough for the conrods to pass the mouth of the barrels unless you lengthened them considerably. When they changed from 650 to 750cc it enabled them to use shorter conrods this give more torque as the angle of leverage is higher ( althoughshorter conrods tend to reduce the revs available)
I guess this is the same type of engine used on your Harley I saw at Hamm? Looks like a good engine to use 
