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Bullet Steering Head loose

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My Bullet manual tells me how to tighten the steering head to get rid of play but I've tightened down the Stem nut all the way and it's still knocking/loose when I do the pull & breaks tests. (This is the new 850 Ruggerfield I've just got BTW).
If I can't tighten down anymore do I need new bearings? Does anyone have the procedure to hand? I'll have a go myself if it's straight forward enough.
Any help appreciated :wink:

(I did, of course, loosed the allen bolt under the stem nut and the two bolts on the forks before winding the stem nut down :D )
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Hi Stuart,
I had a similar problem and couldnt figure it.Eventually I removed the front wheel to fix another thing and found the big nuts on the axle were loose when I tightened them the knock stopped. Worth a look.
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Some times on old bikes they are missing a few balls unless you have a tapered bearing there
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some times old bikers are missing balls but you just have to try to keep going.
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Cheers guys,
I'll check around the wheel just incase. A mate at work reckons the stem might be bottoming out inside the domed stem nut on top when I try to wind it down. And extra large shim or washer might be called for as a temp fix to give me a little more room for manouve.
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When I restored a 1970 Triumph TR6 650, one of the many problems it had was about half the ball bearings in the head races were missing. To get round this the PO had tightened it up untill he ran out of adjustment, which in turn destroyed the cups.
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I've put another washer under the stem nut and that allowed me to lose the slight amount of play I had. But was still getting a knocking so I did what John said and had a look at the wheel. Sure enough, there was play where the hub slots into the fork leg block. Only slight but annoying. I made an L shape shim and inserted it in whilst someone applied the front brake and pushed the bike forward. That seems to have taken up the play. Front end is now rock solid.
If anyone knows a permanent solution to this problem I'd lie to know it. A new hub?
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Hi Stuart



Glad to see you have it kind of sorted. Sometimes like previously mentioned you can loose some ball bearings and there is also another problem with both loose ball races and tapered ones = the surface can become peened forming grooves/ruts on the bearing surface causing play and making the steering feel notched when moving it side to side.

I wonder if there is a taper bearing kit out for Bullet steering heads? Its A.P.I.T.A to grease the loose bearings and slot them in at times.

I'm expecting to do another adjustment on the steering head myself - It cannot have anything to do with MX-ing it along the old wooden bridge here at Maitland :) YYYYEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAA! = Gotta have a bit of fun sometimes.





Cheers


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Post by oldbmw »

As a starting point Hitchcocks have them


Part number 27249
Description STEERING STEM RACE, ENGLISH MADE
Price £ 8.80 NOT INCLUDING POSTAGE, PACKING or VAT

or

Part number 5735
Description STEERING STEM BALL RACE
Price £ 5.50 NOT INCLUDING POSTAGE, PACKING or VAT

plus

Part number 140189S
Description WASHER, STEERING STEM NUT, stainless
Price £ 2.50 NOT INCLUDING POSTAGE, PACKING or VAT
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Post by Stuart »

Cheers Larry but I've ordered one from my local Enfield dealer in Horley, T Northeast. Also ordered the chrome ring between the headlamp and casting. My one has a huge gouge out of it :?
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address?

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Hi Stu, Whats the address and phone number of the Horley Enfield dealer?
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Go here for the shops website Dave :D

4 Station Road
Horley
Surrey
RH6 9HL

Telephone: 01293-783229

http://www.britnett-carver.co.uk/tnortheast/
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