Enfield 'wobble'.
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Enfield 'wobble'.
Have any Enfield Bullet owners out there ever experienced a 'wobble' (similar to speed wobble) when their bikes are loaded up with tank bag and panniers? I say similar to speed wobble because I've experienced it at speeds as low as 15mph on the 850 Enfield Bullet (Ruggerfield).
As far as I can recall, it only occured or was 'kick-started' by bad and uneven road surfaces but this may not be the case.
Almost seemed to get worse the slower I went - and I always slow down to try and stop it! This is quite disturbing! I'm even wondering if the 180 degree crank (which produces an almost inperceptible side to side movement) somehow reacts with the frequency of the bad road conditions and starts this rather unnerving (and dangerous) movement on the bikes handlebars/steering.
I'm asking this as the bike is going to be used by someone other than me and I don't want them experiencing this if it can be helped. I will certainly load the bike differently in an effort to prevent it happening!
As far as I can recall, it only occured or was 'kick-started' by bad and uneven road surfaces but this may not be the case.
Almost seemed to get worse the slower I went - and I always slow down to try and stop it! This is quite disturbing! I'm even wondering if the 180 degree crank (which produces an almost inperceptible side to side movement) somehow reacts with the frequency of the bad road conditions and starts this rather unnerving (and dangerous) movement on the bikes handlebars/steering.
I'm asking this as the bike is going to be used by someone other than me and I don't want them experiencing this if it can be helped. I will certainly load the bike differently in an effort to prevent it happening!
Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
I've had something that sounds just like that Suart. Only ever when loaded up (in fact the last time I recall it happening was on my way home from this year's Big Knock). As I was slowing down for a roundabout it had those painted yellow strips running up to it - it set up a very nasty wobble that, as for you, seemed to get worse as I slowed down further until I got below about 10mph. I could force it to happen myself if I rode around 20-25mph and started up a bit of a rhythm through the handlebars with my hands.
I don't think it's your engine, just one of those things. You could change all manner of stuff on the bike and not manage to remove it so I think it's just something your new rider needs to be aware of. It was never something I was unable to control - simply needed a firm hand. It just takes you by surprise the first time it happens.
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I don't think it's your engine, just one of those things. You could change all manner of stuff on the bike and not manage to remove it so I think it's just something your new rider needs to be aware of. It was never something I was unable to control - simply needed a firm hand. It just takes you by surprise the first time it happens.
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Cheers for that info Dan. As it turns out I don't need the solution to this quite so urgently as I thought I did now as we've just found out Jeff is unable to ride the Ruggerfield in Europe on my (or his) insurance policy!!
But it's still one of those problems that I'd like to figure out. An annoying problem that comes at you when your least expecting it and it can give you quite a turn lol
But it's still one of those problems that I'd like to figure out. An annoying problem that comes at you when your least expecting it and it can give you quite a turn lol
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
It does happen from time to time. I found the following -seem- to help but might be imaginary.
Check tyre pressures not too low.
don't have any weight behind the rear wheel axle ( top boxes and rear carriers)
try to get all heavy stuff low down in panniers and not above seat height.
I assume you are planning for Hamm, I hope to be there sometime over the weekend.
ps extra weight in tank bags dont help
Check tyre pressures not too low.
don't have any weight behind the rear wheel axle ( top boxes and rear carriers)
try to get all heavy stuff low down in panniers and not above seat height.
I assume you are planning for Hamm, I hope to be there sometime over the weekend.
ps extra weight in tank bags dont help
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
ME TO ,WOBBLE ,WOBBLE,WOBBLE. .PUT STUFF IN TANK BAG AND IN PANIERS ,THEN ONLY LIGHT STUFF ON MY RACK,THAT STOPED THE WOBBLE ,WOBBLE ,WOBBOL
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Thank God new bikes are better right? lol
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Nope, first time I experienced this was when travelling with you from Mons on teh road t Aachen.
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Just a thing to try. Just jack up the front wheel and check there is no notches in the steering bearings, as this causes wobble when it coinsides with engine vibration.
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Yea, when I took Grahams Diesel Enfield to Germany (not Hamm) a few years ago it would wobble and weve all over the place. More so with more luggage. especially up high in the top box. Main causes worsening it were a loose chassis nut and soft panniers that allowed swaying of your stuff in sympathy with the bikes moment. Although I didn't experience the sort of wobble you describe I never got rid of the wobble and over the trip it was mostly ridable however after loading up with water and supplies and hitting undulations in the road had the rest of the travellers pissing them selves as I battled it around corners.
Also strapping two mini kegs of beer to the front crash bars is asking for trouble and they stayed there for approx 50 yards.
Also strapping two mini kegs of beer to the front crash bars is asking for trouble and they stayed there for approx 50 yards.
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
I've noticed light wobbling a few times on my Enfield at low speeds. Nothing uncontrollable but it is a little surprising.
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Yes, reckon its the high tank luggage that does it. Glad I've a better bike now in the Tiger
Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Out of round rear tire is one of the major cause of slow speed wobbles , disappears with gain in speed. Stearing geometry or loose front end generally shows its wobbles only on higher speeds.
although its hard to comment on exact cause without first hand experience.
although its hard to comment on exact cause without first hand experience.
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Rock solid, nary even a slight wobble from my Enfield; suspect build quality I reckon.
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Just discovered that the rear wheel bearing is shot so maybe this was a contributory factor in the wobble? Although the bike had passed an MoT before. Hmm. Anyway, I'm gonna try get roller instead of ball bearings in the hope that they will handle the load better.
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
Maybe also the cush rubber? Just guessing. I replaced my bearing but not my cush rubber. The most wobble I experience is when I am too lazy to downshift below 40 kmph (while in 4th)
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Re: Enfield 'wobble'.
I have an old half hub rear brake and I've not seen any cush rubbers I have just got new ball bearings and with drift them in later. We'll soon see If they were the problem. But I will fit a new tyre first before the wheel goes on.
Well the bike is back on the road and going fine. The wobble may well have been due to the bearing starting to fail but seeing as the wobble only occurred rarely and with the bike loaded I will be hard to prove. That main thing is that it's back where it belongs, thundering down the English country lanes and getting attention from anyone who spots it
Well the bike is back on the road and going fine. The wobble may well have been due to the bearing starting to fail but seeing as the wobble only occurred rarely and with the bike loaded I will be hard to prove. That main thing is that it's back where it belongs, thundering down the English country lanes and getting attention from anyone who spots it