Fuel Consumption - Maths

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Fuel Consumption - Maths

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OK I need a maths check here, I've been doing a bit of spreadsheet analysis comparing fuel consumption from the engine graphs to what I'm actually getting. I looks like I'm close, but one of the side benefits is the ability to find the most economical engine speed.

Here's the Yanmar L100 fuel graph.

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50 mph for old Sluggy is about 2700 rpm so spot on the curve for best fuel consumption:

Here's the maths bit - it's MPG so apologies for out continental members who work in Litres per 100km

g per Hp hour = 180
50mph needs 8hp (ok this is a best guesstimate)
So to travel 50 miles you need 8 x 180g = 1440g or 1.44kg of fuel
Diesel weighs 3.87kg per Imp gallon (now I've lost out US members too)
So 1.44kg / 3.87kg = 0.3721 gals/hour

So 1 gallon will take you 50/0.3721 = 134.37 miles - Ta Da!

Now that's pretty close to what I'm actually getting.

Now moving up the theoretical chain

3600 rpm for me is 66.65 mph at which point we are up to 200 g per HP Hour.

If we accept that 10hp will power you to 66mph..... then MPG dips down to 97 - quite a reduction.
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Interesting, so if I calculate the approximate fuel use for my bike using the D722 and custom gearing it will be...

195 - 205 g/HP-h
Density Diesel = 0,84 kg/dm3 @ 20 Degrees (0.84 kg/l)
Using top gear on all calculations

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Using Dave's guesstimate @ ~2300 RPM
85 km/h ~ 9HP (Heavy bike and rider)
9hp * 195 g/HP-h = 3218g
3.218kg/0.84 kg/l = 3.83 l/h
85km/2.09 l/h = 40.67 km/l = 114.9mpg



Using all available power @ ~2300 RPM
85 km/h ~ 14 HP
14 hp * 195 g/HP-h = 2730 g
2.730 kg/0.84 kg/l = 3.95 l/h
85km/3.25 l/h = 26.15 km/l = 73.9mpg

Using all available power @ 2600 RPM
111 km/h ~ 16.5 HP
16.5 * 195 g/HP-h = 3218 g
3.218kg/0.84 kg/l = 2.64 l/h
111km/2.64 l/h = 42.05 km/l = 118.8mpg

Using all available power @ 3600 RPM
132 km/h ~ 20 HP
20 * 205 g/HP-h = 4100 g
4.100kg/0.84 kg/l = 4.88 l/h
132km/4.88 l/h = 27.05 km/l = 76.4mpg

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I hope you don't mind but I added the MPG equivalents.

Looks about right to me.

Just goes to show if you can reduce your drag by 1hp you can make big fuel savings.- Must put Sluggy's screen back on.
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Well if you are going to do that make sure you add the american one as-well. :P

Yeah, saving fuel by reducing drag... Adding a sidecar might pose a bit of a problem then... :|

It does put into perspective that the thing really will need more power if its going to lugg a sidecar around.
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HP, speed, weight, fuel consumption, drag, are all interconnected, but what is not so obvious and is worth considering is a naked bike is quieter than a faired bike. My big bike gets noisy after 70mph this is wind noise, reading that a naked bike is quieter I didn't believe it , so riding along I stood on the foot pegs and all went quiet. Next day removed 6" of screen much better.
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