Re-registering an old bsa frame UK

[charlie_ctt]

Hello all HAPPY NEW YEAR.

I have recently bought a BSA D1 plunger frame as a diesel project. I then bought everything else needed to assemble this BSA yanclone project.

When looking into getting the puppy back on the road (not finished yet) i have found through the BSA owners club that to get the frame back on the road i need
DATING CERTIFICATE, PROOF OF OWNERSHIP, MOT AND PICTURES OF THE BIKE FOR DVLA. Its not going to be an original BSA D1 build so all the proof i will be giving them will not get the frame registered back on the road.

Is their another way around it. Other way i though was getting it SVA tested and insure as a full custom BUT insurance is stupid for myself..

Basically i dont care if DVLA knows it a diesel etc i just need to be able to insure as a BSA D1 with mods rather then a full custom.
CHEERS

[mark_in_manchester]

Easiest way (I think - this is how I did it) is to rebuild the bike as standard, get your age-related plate through an owners club (who will probably be sticklers - mine are), then do mods and tell DVLA and your insurance company. This worked for me, after a fashion, though my MOT man was pretty charitable about what he 'wrote' for inspection report which dvla requested for re=registration of fuel typre (AFTER standard bike had a plate issued).

Means you'll need a D1 engine to use for a little while and sell on.

cheers

Mark

[charlie_ctt]

Thanks for the reply

This is starting to get expensive. But if it was easy everyone would be doing it..

so if i took the frame with non original parts but a D1 engine all built up get it all registered. Then do the engine swap this would be the way.

Cheers

[mark_in_manchester]

quote:

so if i took the frame with non original parts but a D1 engine all built up get it all registered. Then do the engine swap this would be the way.


My owners club are sticky about what they'll register - remember, DVLA want to _think_ that a bike is and has always been a collection of the _same parts_ - if DVLA were to think a great, original-looking D1 build up _from previously dissassociated parts_ was a 'marriage', they'd want to give you a Q-plate. In practice there's a points system - so many points for original engine / gearbox / forks / wheels etc. DVLA have a leaflet on it.

Obviously, if you use various bits from various places, so long as all the bits are 'right' no-one is going to know the difference. But this tends to mean owners clubs interpret the rules strictly, since they want dvla to continue to allow them to do this. The impression from my club was that if I tried to get them to help me register anything less 'original' than a few minor details, they would not want to know.

Quickest way to proceed if you're fixed on D1 frame would be to buy another complete, registered D1, break this bike to build your diesel project (keeping the reg), and use all the left-over bits to build a very original looking D1 with your 'other' frame to re-register and sell on! I went through this rigmarole with a number of ural frames on my way...or I could have sold stuff on as unregistered kits of parts, but I would have lost money.

Other things which can help are an old tax disc or old log book for a frame (yours? or are you good with number stamps?!) An old number plate is of no interest to them, oddly enough. They're very fussy about one sending them originals of this kind of doc, which you may not get back. In Russian bike clubs (my area), the presence of Poland and baltic states in EU means that old USSR docs from these countries smooth the way, and there seems to be quite a trade in them...