Is there a basic engine guide anywhere that gives a rough overview of different engine options for motorbikes? I hear all kinds of different brand names thrown around and hear "yanmar clone" a lot but don't know what they all are, what some of the clones are called (brand names) and where to get them from (i'm used to X engine was fitted in X car so it was easy, not as straight forward as that with generators etc). As I'm new to all the names it sounds like another language
When I first started building a kit car I couldn't tell you a single engine name, now I could talk for hours about the pinto, crossflow, R1, hayabusa, blackbird, fireblade, duratec, zetec, K series, rover/lexus V8, mazda V6, volvo T5/redblock/straight 6, sr20det, rotary, C20XE... but I'm stumped with small diesel engines!
Engine guide?
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You are only limited by local legislation, your own (or hired) ingenuity and money.
For inspiration, read all of http://www.dieselbike.net/searchbymanuf ... cturer.htm and http://classic.dieselkrad.info/dieselmotorraeder.html for inspiration.
I can tell you right now, probably noone knows all clone manufacturers of the Yanmar L series. Prices vary greatly, but I'm not sure there are strong ties to engine quality. To me it seems you should start with what you are trying to accomplish, and start collecting parts.
So, some brands: Kama, Changfa, Kipor, Yangke etc. Maybe one of the Brits can recommend a seller near you.
For inspiration, read all of http://www.dieselbike.net/searchbymanuf ... cturer.htm and http://classic.dieselkrad.info/dieselmotorraeder.html for inspiration.
I can tell you right now, probably noone knows all clone manufacturers of the Yanmar L series. Prices vary greatly, but I'm not sure there are strong ties to engine quality. To me it seems you should start with what you are trying to accomplish, and start collecting parts.
So, some brands: Kama, Changfa, Kipor, Yangke etc. Maybe one of the Brits can recommend a seller near you.
'92 Enfield + Hatz 1B40: street legal, weld up stainless exhaust, check engine rpm and change final drive sprocket.
Re: Engine guide?
There is no guide I had heard off.
Just a few words to give you an overview.
We have generally two different types of used engines. The industrial Diesel engines an the ones taken from a donor car.
The mostly used former car engine is the Daihatsu. A watercooled triple with 998cc. Availible with and without turbocharger.
We have also builds with the 800cc engine form the smart and the 1200cc TDI triple used in the VW Lupo and Audi A2.
Some guys even decided to use bigger four cylinder engines. The smallest availible was used in the Citroen AX od Peugeot 106.
The biggest and heaviest car engine used (until now) is the 1600cc four cylinder used in a wide range of cars from Volkswagen.
On the other side we have the industrial Engines. "Original" manufacturers are Hatz, Ruggerini, Lombardini, Kubota, Yanmar and Farymann. These manufacturers have distributrors everywhere in the world. Some of us are buying the engine they want from the local distributor, other use the engine they found in a broken something. Just to see if it fits in a motorcycle. Building diesel motorcycles is anarchy
Because of the high price level of these engines we have a market of mostly cloned engines from china for some years now.
The brands Kama and Changfa are known for a clone of the popular Yanmar L100V engine. Punsun and Kipor brought us something new. A range of V2 diesel engines. Air cooled from Punsun and water cooled from Kipor.
At least there are some engines that could be used if there where availible. I've listed some of them on my site: http://classic.dieselkrad.info/motoren.html
Conclusion: Very few new engines for ten years. The smart cdi was introduced in 2000. And it's still the only car engine with "motorcycle size". The next thing will be the Tata Nano in it's diesel version. But nobody knows when this will be offered to the public.
Hope this helps
Just a few words to give you an overview.
We have generally two different types of used engines. The industrial Diesel engines an the ones taken from a donor car.
The mostly used former car engine is the Daihatsu. A watercooled triple with 998cc. Availible with and without turbocharger.
We have also builds with the 800cc engine form the smart and the 1200cc TDI triple used in the VW Lupo and Audi A2.
Some guys even decided to use bigger four cylinder engines. The smallest availible was used in the Citroen AX od Peugeot 106.
The biggest and heaviest car engine used (until now) is the 1600cc four cylinder used in a wide range of cars from Volkswagen.
On the other side we have the industrial Engines. "Original" manufacturers are Hatz, Ruggerini, Lombardini, Kubota, Yanmar and Farymann. These manufacturers have distributrors everywhere in the world. Some of us are buying the engine they want from the local distributor, other use the engine they found in a broken something. Just to see if it fits in a motorcycle. Building diesel motorcycles is anarchy
Because of the high price level of these engines we have a market of mostly cloned engines from china for some years now.
The brands Kama and Changfa are known for a clone of the popular Yanmar L100V engine. Punsun and Kipor brought us something new. A range of V2 diesel engines. Air cooled from Punsun and water cooled from Kipor.
At least there are some engines that could be used if there where availible. I've listed some of them on my site: http://classic.dieselkrad.info/motoren.html
Conclusion: Very few new engines for ten years. The smart cdi was introduced in 2000. And it's still the only car engine with "motorcycle size". The next thing will be the Tata Nano in it's diesel version. But nobody knows when this will be offered to the public.
Hope this helps
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Re: Engine guide?
Also, we should wait for people to crash their Subaru Boxer diesels so we can salvage it for transplantation
'92 Enfield + Hatz 1B40: street legal, weld up stainless exhaust, check engine rpm and change final drive sprocket.
Re: Engine guide?
Thanks for all the info chaps!